SEPTEMBER 7th, 2014
Two members of the Nyew team, Sharon and Csela, managed to enter the back wing of Savant's concert in Sélestat (France), and got the chance to meet one of the greatest musical minds of our time.
Nyew team's word :
'After "Z" invited us in with a smile, Savant and we had an hour-and-a-half conversation which allowed us to get a glimpse of what lies behind his mask. We litterally came out of it jaws dropped. It taught us a great lesson about human behaviour inside the whole music star system and the way it's experienced by a talent as huge as Savant.'
Nyew(C) : Will you go to Paris? You know you really got lots of fans in there. It (your music) is so viral there because we love classical and electro music together, it's like ecstasy, it's so beautiful.
Savant : Yeah so beautiful, and you know that's what I grew up with, when I was 12 years old, I bought Discovery by Daft Punk, and I was into German trance music at the time. But, when I heard that French touch, the French house, that opened my eyes. Like SebastiAn, Mr Oizo?
Nyew(C) : Oh yeah SebastiAn we really love him, (we btw booked him once for our College party).
Savant : He's so underground, he's crazy !!
Nyew(C) : He's like freestyle, like he doesn't care right ?
Savant : He does not fucking care ! He's like "Fuck you, fuck you, fuck your style, fuck your genre, fuck your music, I do my style." That's amazing, he doesn't care.
Z : He's someone you should work with !
Savant : Yes, he's so cool, like he doesn't give a shit about being a star or anybody like that. And also he's very different from Justice or Daft Punk you know, because of the attitude, the feeling you know, the rock'n'roll.
Nyew(S) : But it's a little different from you because, I mean, when he's mixing, he's like in trance.
Nyew(C) : In the inside.
Nyew(S) : But you are really...
Savant : On the outside! The energy I get from my music! Like when I make music at home: I make music for like 10 min 20 min, and then I go like 'Wooo I wanna dance!', so I go up and I start to dance and move around and shit! Because when you get a good music, you want to dance you know. And if you don't get good music, you don't wanna dance. I'm talking about electro, like disco, like house, like 'Move your body and get funky and move!'. And all the time, when I play shortly my own music, I get that too.
Nyew(C) : And yes I think if it's your own music it's a another feeling ?
Savant : Yeah it's a totally different thing ! And also when you play like 90 min (referring to the concert) of your OWN stuff, then you come into trance in your mind, like 'This is my stuff, and everyone is listening to it.'
Nyew(C) : So we were talking about French musicians...
Savant : The French kinda listened to what was happening in England and in America with the house music, and Daft Punk really tells it with their first album too, like : 'We learn from these people, we learned from these DJs'. They have a song called 'Teachers', where they talk about all the DJs they've kinda listened to and learned from, and all of them are like from UK and... Oh Phoenix ! And Paris, stuff like that, of course legends you know.
Nobody talks about them anymore, but they really changed the music, the way it is today. Like Skrillex and Deadmau5, who all started to listen to those first people, you know the French fuckin' stuff! So it's there. And also when I get to France and play music here, it's the energy people want... I don't know because when you go to the America and play, they just want to have fun. But here [in France] they wanna hear music. Do you know what I mean? Like you have the intelligent need for information. You want it, you need it, you desire it. The beautiful messed up, the esthetic, the beautiful beat of the distortion. It's a contrast!
Nyew(C) : Yes exactly people are looking for the sound, they're not looking for the thing that will make everybody dance around. They're looking for something that will make their inner side shake !
Savant : Exactly ! This thing very special and very unique ! Very indie and very low key. But it can be big and beautiful as well.
Nyew(C) : I think people have reached a threshold of saturation.
Savant : Yes ! everything sounds the same right !?
Nyew(C) : Exactly, and when people listen to your music or to other people who try to do something else, they're all like 'Oh ! It exists !? And it's like a new revelation everytime ! And I've seen their face when they hear it for the first time : for example at my gym once, I wanted to play Melody Circus on the stereo, saying to the others it was something new, and that even if them commercial likers... won't probably like it, I didn't care, it's kind of adrenaline to me and I needed it at that moment. But just after the track began, when the first drop came, one of them looked at me directly into the eyes and asked me fully surprised : 'What is this !?', then he shazamed it at once and sent it to a friend who also answered 'What is this !? I want this ! I got goose bumps at the first listening !' Then I realized 'Ok ! People need something, people need new things'. And ok, maybe the 'face' of some DJs is a good way to get viral, to make people say 'Oh look, he so mad ! He has a style with ugly nice things etc...', but now people want to get new information, new music, just this way ! They want to know more music they find beautiful, not only some boom boom they danced on once !
Savant : Yeah, that Beatport thing, you know, just full of boom boom boom.
Nyew(C) : Yes like : 'Oh some new music I found at the party!' But it's commercial man.
Savant : It's music made for party. It's made to party with. Not to listen to.
Nyew(C) : Exactly ! And for people now, electro music is only 'boom boom' in parties!
Nyew(S) : I'm not sure, I think people finally start to listen at home.
Savant : It is a spinning trend. I don't know, how old are you...
Nyew(C + S) : 21
Savant : I'm 27 so I'm a bit older than you but when I grew up I used to listen to heavy metal, like : Metallica, Slayer, Pantera, like heavy shit sometimes really slow, sometimes really fast metal doesn't matter as long as it has something good in it, something that makes me go like 'Hmmm! Hmm I like this!'
Nyew(S) : I think this kind of music is similar to Dubstep.
Savant : Yeah the 2 energies, the energy that 'HRRRRMM!' it's very similar yeah, very wrath !
Nyew(C) : What's also very very new and different about your music is that it's changing, it's evolving in the same song, it's not the same thing people hear again and again with the same drops, same leads...
Savant : Haha ! Three songs in one song right?
Nyew(C) : Yes and people are like 'Okay ! I'm having a full story going inside my head, I'm like travelling in a world that's evolving in the same song!?
Savant : Well that's cool !
Nyew(S) : And your songs are so different from one another !
Nyew(C) : Yeah it's like you have I don't know, a kind of inspiring god above you. And we can feel it, we can say: 'Oh look he's done this sound at this only moment of the music and then no more. And it's amazing!'
Savant : That's crazy...
Nyew(C) : And people are like searching it, and it's very particular in your music. And I think it's pretty your style because I don't find it yet anywhere else, because other people are doing much more repetitive music.
Savant : Yeah, and I think what you're talking about is that behind all the facade, behind all the electro sound, behind all the dubstep, behind all what we think things are, it's melody, it's harmony, it's rhythm and it's all trying to talk to you, trying to communicate with your brain : trying to tell you mathematics, symmetry, philosophy, trying to tell you love ! Yeah different stuff, and sometimes you actually can't do that with music, it's really hard, but if you put your mind to it, if you say : 'I want to make the most beautiful song in the world today.' It's possible. Like some of music I made, I've set down, I want to make something that gives me goose bumps. I want to make something that makes my hears go like 'Psssh' stand up. And how I do that... I've listened to everything: like I like Polka I like everything. Everything! I don't have boundaries, I don't have borders : I like punk, I like rock, I like trip hop, I like fucking breakbeats...
Nyew(C) : Whenever it's good...
Savant : It's good ! Jazz music it can be beautiful, like techno music can be beautiful, it can be boring too!
Nyew(S) : Even classical !
Savant : Yes ! It can be both boring and beautiful. It depends on the mind behind it and the emotion put into it. Like Beethoven, Mozart... I don't... Mozart was a bit like...
Z : Poppy
Savant : Poppy but very egotistical, and very sociopathic, he was very like 'me me me' and 'God is with me and he's talking to me'. And maybe I have the same kind of situation, like: God is or, you know, 'God' or the universe, everything is just talking to me. But I try to do it not for just me and my thing. It's like what you're telling me you know : you feel connection, you feel like you need it, that's all of it ! That's why I do it!
FL technic :
Savant : If you wanna make a talking bass you may use the Parametric EQ, by making 2 peaks that you animate together and make them move getting closer or further from one another. And then it sounds like a throat. It's crazy you should try it. And when you try it you're like 'Oh! That's how they do it!'
(Pause autographs 10 min)
Savant : I think that if you don't go to school, you're not taught how to think. If you learn on your own, if you just feel what you feel, you will become your own thing. And what did I say previously? I was like...
Z : Oh my god, yeah this is the best code I've ever heard from you : 'I am the collection of my misconceptions.' Right... Like : 'my misunderstandings'.
Savant : Yeah, like the way I learn is : I think that's how it is, but it's not really how it is. It's how I imagine it to be, like how I make music. I didn't go to school to learn to play, I just see it.
Z : Oh : 'I am the result of my misunderstandings.'
Savant : Yeah, yeah yeah ! I am a result of my misunderstandings, like: I think music was simple so it was !
Nyew(S) : Whow !
Savant : Why not? It could be like Einstein and the mathematics, he thought: 'Yeah! This is simple!'
Z : 'This is easy!'
Savant : Like 'Why don't everyone understand it?' It's how I feel about my music, it's so simple. It's like : 'Of course! This chord fits with that chord, that melody fits with that thing. When I make a song, it's like : 'Obviously, it's this way, it's the only way.' And if I don't finish it or don't make it perfect, I throw it away. So I probably threw away more songs than I release. I throw away a lot of music like : 'Fuck that, not good enough (bis).'
Nyew(S) : You'd like it to be perfect.
Nyew(C) : So do you plan them, all the melodies, at the beginning? Or do you see what you've done before and then it comes to you ?
Savant : It's so fast !
Nyew(C) : So you have to write it down ?
Savant : No, not really, sometimes I can be away from home, and I get a song in my head!
Nyew(C) : So you sing it in a microphone ?
Savant : I don't always have a microphone! Sometimes I just have to remember it. And sometimes I get just a hook, you know the lead, the melody, the hook with the chords, the thing that you want to remember you know, the 'tu-du-du-du-du' the super melody.
Nyew(C) : And you manage to remember it all the time?
Savant : Yes, yes. And my dad told me when I was a child, a young kid : 'If you got the melody in your head and you forget it, it not good enough.' But I don't forget anything! So it's like it's always there, so I just make it out. But I think that the way we should make music ought not to be : 'Oh, I made a product. Look how pro I am.' That's how music is made, I think that's wrong. I think that every song is an experiment, in a direction or something. Because nothing is perfect. It's all just a step on the way to something.
Nyew(C) : Like 'I want to tell something' ?
Savant : Yeah exactly. Because money doesn't make you happy. What makes you happy is making other people happy. What is better at the end of the day? Make yourself happy, or make everyone else happy? Cause making everyone else happy makes you happy! Automatically! So why focus on just making yourself happy, when you can make everyone else happy? And it's like when you tide that into music, you can get like mixed things like I'm not trying to make music for other people, not! Because that's wrong, that's like : 'Oh, I want more 8 bit music, I want more chiptunes, I want more harpsichord or jumblo, or what : clavecin... [french for harpsichord] or more of this and more of that.' And I go like 'Mfffh, I don't take requests!' I just do my style, always different every time.
Savant : My parents told me : 'You can do what you want, we will stay out of your way, and if you fall down from a tree you'll break your arm. But it's ok, that's life.' You know that's how I was raised. 'Make mistakes. Be proud of your mistakes.' Because you don't learn without seeing what's wrong, right? That's why I make albums, so many songs too! You have to fail to become better. And that's why I don't really care if people: 'Oh this sounds too rush' ; 'This is not finished' ; 'This is not good enough' ; 'This is not a final product'... people say that... 'You should spend more time on your music'. That's exactly what people say, because I'm so fast that they think I'm sloppy: I do things like 'urrgh' you know? Cause those people, if they try to do it that fast, that's how they would do it. Like: 'Prrrrrruuuffffff, houf! Finished!' I don't. I just concentrate, concentrate, and finish. It's like just doing something you're good at. So I get a lot of feedback from people who think I'm fucking just 'faking my way through it'. So they think that the music can't be good because I'm doing it so fast. It 'can't be good', so they listen to music and actually decide: 'This is not good music cause it's made too fast.' And I'm like: 'What?! WHAT?!?!'.
Savant : But, hum, who am I thinking of...? David Guetta ! He's a bad example of French music, like the one you can't be proud of.
Nyew(C) : I don't know if I can say it in front of the camera, but actually we're not very proud of him...
Savant : No but we have to honest about this : 'cause I don't care what the newspapers think, I don't care what journalists think, I believe what the people think is what's important. And the people don't believe bullshit. And what he's doing is bullshit !
Nyew(S) : He does indeed a lot of commercial music. But also he's doing some music that are not commercial...
Savant : But do we hear about it ? Does he promote it ? Does he want people to know about it ? No, he just gets locked out.
Nyew(C) : He only wants some image of him to be viral within the commercial people, not the other one.
Savant : That's the thing !
Nyew(C) : Because I think he can do something...
Savant : He can.
Nyew(C) : He has some very old music very nice...
Nyew(S) : Yes I think he's a good musician you know?
Savant : Inside, but he got caught up in the big rat race, and he's got too many people talking in his ear you know, too many people's influence. Daft Punk didn't do that ! They are the two opposites, if Guetta is here, then Daft Punk hold there. Because they have integrity. It means when you stick to your style, your truth, your vision. You don't go like 'Oh you like that ? I'll do that!' You know that's bullshit, like ugh!, when you want to be what everyone wants you to be. Frankly I've never heard of him before he became super pop. But I've heard of like everyone else before they became super pop. So it's always like he didn't really have the 'earn grace', because he was club owner right ? He ran clubs in Paris, so he got known for being the house DJ, the owner, the cool cat that runs the scene. Then he became the DJ and then the popstar and all the top of that. Everybody knew who he was, no? It's like 'Oh this is David, big star!'. He was a club owner, now he's a... you know transitions are weird! But you know, everybody has, when you get to the top, the felling that you can't really be mad, you can't be jealous, you can't! Because you deserve whatever you get. If you work hard, whether you cheat or not, when you just work to get some place, you deserve it. No matter if you cheated or not.
Z : I think he's worked hard.
Savant : He's worked hard, he's done the right things like 'Toc, toc, toc, toc', right things.
Nyew(C) : But these were business things, not much of music things , right ?
Savant : That's what I want to connect with people : 'Do you really want that? or do you want music.' Like I don't wanna be a face, I don't care about face really. It's like when I was listening to music in the 90s, when I was 16, 12, like... young, I didn't care what they looked like, I didn't care how they were, I just cared about the sound !
And also they were so anonymous at the time, DJs made 1 track and disappeared forever, they did one track and then they 'Whoof' into darkness. So when you bought CDs, it was 1 track by one DJ, 1 track by 1 other DJ. Not two tracks by the same DJ right? Different DJs all the time! So you were constantly like refreshed, and nobody had the ego to be like 'Hey, fuck! I'm the fuckin... Scarface of techno music, so fuck you and cocaine and fuck bitches and...' But that's now! That's what everything is now! And it's really terrible to tore, and meet all these superstars, and they're all like 'Huugh !'
Nyew(C) : But don't you think this attitude is kind of fading away? This way of having an image of oneself and saying 'I represent something but my music is something beside it'. I think it's getting pulled apart now doesn't it? Thanks to people like you.
Savant : Yes haha !
Nyew(C) : Sure ! Because when I make some people listen to your music, they're all like 'I've never heard anything like this' and sometimes at the first listening of for example Melody Circus or Sledgehammer, it's something incredible.
Savant : Like Thriller by Michael Jackson, very good, very beautiful... but not perfect. There's some sounds in there like 'yu-yu-yu-yu-yu', you know, that could be different: more power, more 'AHHHRRR!'. But this 'unnnuugh...'
Nyew(C) : You mean it's too restrained on itself?
Savant : Exactly, so it could have been more open, more crazy, and actually, there was more crazy! But they toned it down for the people at the time. So they had a couple of track on there, which I've heard, and sounds really good! But they didn't make it 'cause it was too crazy for the album. It didn't fit with the other songs. And I think that: Fuck that! It's supposed to be that way! An album is a symphony. You're supposed to not like one thing in there. And nobody doesn't hate the same thing. That's the thing! Everybody has a different favorite track, everyone has a different track to hate! And it's always gonna be like that. Like your friend hates this track, your other friend hates another track. But it's just about experiment.
Nyew(C) : A feeling you want to catch.
Savant : Exactly, I try to be a scientist with emotions in music. Like: 'How can I make my emotions into this music, and then send it to you!' and then I need you and you tell me how you feel, and I go like 'Wtf, I didn't expect that!'. So I get really like 'WHOOOW!' when you guys tell me that. You know, you feel the music I make and it's like I don't know what to think, 'cause I'm human, I'm just a dude, like you! I'm just a guy you know! We could be out drinking, flirting with chicks you know, having a good time like guys! We're just normal people and I think that we should stay that way. I don't think people should be stars or gods or presidents or dictators, or anything. I think people should just say: 'Oh! He's good at that, we all respect that. I'm good at this, we all respect that.' We all have different... we all complete each other, we're all big pieces of the puzzle. Well I don't care if I'm good with music, there's some other dude who's good with fucking... art! Or sculptures, or driving, or fucking anything you know! There's something good at everything you know. And I don't really see myself as anything like really super. Even though, if you hear the words: 'You are God' like ten times a day. People write that, and I just don't look. Because you can't take that to you. You are not God! Nobody is, no matter how much people say it to you? you are not God. And that was a problem with big artists like Michael Jackson, Prince, Beyonce, Jay-Z, all these big cats. They get to a certain point where they're immortal. They're like... untouchable.
Nyew(C) : And then they think it.
Savant : If you hear it enough, you think it. Like Kanye West you know : 'I'm the best!', who told him that? Who told him he was the best?
Z : We did!
Savant : Maybe we did. But where are his records?
Z : We totally did, the world did!
Savant : Yeah cause if he wasn't good he wouldn't be in a position to say that he was the best at all, I guess... So that's what we were talking about earlier : everybody deserves what they get. Yeah, if you fake your way to the top, you deserve everything you get. The hate, the love, the money everything.
Nyew(C) : You know that many people talk about you as a music researcher.
Savant : Hahah ! You know Savant means scientist!
Nyew(C) : Yeah exactly, so that leads to it. But also everybody are so eager to listen to your new albums, because they know it will be new.
Savant : I didn't know this!
Nyew(C) : We have a lot of feedback about it and people are like : 'I know this will be another thing, I know this will be new, I want new and I want to listen to Savant because I know this will be some other musical travelling, another trip, anther something!'
Savant : You know what's sad, really like incredibly sad? like... morbid sad, is that when people write on Facebook and say like 'I love your music' and 'I cry when I listen to it' or anything like that : it's written, it's impersonal, it's distance, it's on the internet, it's text. But when you sit here and people tell it to your face, you see their eyes, you see their body language. It's like it gets to me! It's different! It's like : when you read the comments on the internet, I do that all the time every day, it doesn't really go onto you. It doesn't really get inside of you. It's just...
Nyew(S) : You don't know these people.
Savant : You don't know them!
Nyew(S) : The good and the bad ones.
Savant : Exactly, and usually I take the bad ones more. When I get 600 good ones and 1 bad one, I take that more than 600 good ones. It can ruin the whole thing. I can actually hate a song I made, because of I person who told it was bad. I'm not kidding with you. I'm really lucky people don't say that a lot. I would be a nerves wreck all time if people say 'Oh it's really sad, you should stop doing music' like 'Go away' or 'It would be better without you'
Z : I don't think I've ever read that.
Savant : No but I would actually take that to heart! Cause I believe that if 1 person believes something, that's enough to change the world. And if you believe that banks or fucking Rothschild or Rockefeller or all those people decide what happens in the world, you're fucking insane! It's you and I, right now in this room who decide what's gonna happen in the future. If we say : 'Hey dude, let's take over the world together', we're gonna do it. It's that simple. It's what I told you : if you believe it's simple, it IS simple. You just have to make fun with it, like when you were a child playing with legos and fucking toys and G.I.Joe's you know, the soldiers and stuff like that. You didn't have rules, with mom or dad coming and saying 'Diner' or 'Time to go out' - fuck you I'm playing! You know it's like me and my imagination. I never stopped doing that. I never stopped being in that space. I never grew up, I never became an adult, I never took the choice of becoming like serious and like 'Oh no, this shit is this way'. I decide it. I change my mind every day! About important stuff, like 'Do I love my girlfriend?', I change my mind every day and I'm honest about it. Let's be honest about how we feel for fuck's sake! Let's not be a wreck about it. It's about people respecting you for being honest. And that's even safer than feeling that 'Oh you might leave me or you might go away'. It's like at least I know how he thinks so he doesn't screw me. It's much easier to be honest with people! And I also think that if I don't like something, I write it down on Facebook. Like if I don't like David Guetta, I fucking tell people. You know I'm not trying to be popular! I'm not trying to win people. I'm trying to just be me and see that it's possible to be yourself and also do something successful! You don't have to be fucking fake. I feel so sorry for Michael Jackson! He thought he had to be white to be successful! And he lived his whole life in denial, he did surgery and he lied about it, and how terrible does that feel to lie! About something you want !
Nyew(C) : So sad.
Savant : Because he did it for you, us! He did it because we're white, and he wanted to appeal to us, cause he was afraid : his daddy beat him, when he was a kid : 'You gotta make music for the white people! That's the only way you're gonna make money!' Yes, I'm serious dude, like he was beaten by his dad to death, just to make 'white music'.
Nyew(C) : Then he thought he had to be white.
Savant : Yeah, he got fucked up and became white, for fuck's sake. And that's not how you're supposed to be as an artist. I think Michael Jackson is the most, the biggest artist in the world. Like, bigger than Elvis... ever!
Nyew(C) : Bigger than Freddy Mercury?
Savant : Yeah, bigger! Bigger!!! Michael Jackson is on everybody's tong. Everyone knows him! Japan, Thailand, Russia! Where you can go, they know Billy Jean, Thriller, you know, they heard it! But it's like, that guy was so messed up, think he was like a good person, if he had emotion for people, if he had like politics, if he wasn't just a crazy person! If he had something real to say, everyone would listen! Everyone would fucking listen, because everyone loved him. Even though he was a fucked up crazy person, they'd still love his music. So you gotta really fuck up for people not to like you I guess. Cause everyone still like him even though people thought he had sex with kids... I don't think he did. I just think he was fucking f.u.c.k.e.d up.
Nyew(C) : He was a kid in his head.
Savant : Yeah exactly, like he never grew up...
Nyew(C) : In a bad way.
Savant : In a bad way! Like I didn't grow up, but in a good way!
Savant : And one guy from New York once said to me: 'Oh you should stop releasing so much free music, you're losing money.' I said to him : 'Fuck off! I don't give a shit if I'm losing money. It's not about money, it's about making people happy!' And he would kinda get just: 'Oh! It's not good business! You're losing fans! People won't respect you, like you're working too fast!' And I'm like: 'That's the thing!' That's what people will respect me for!
Z : Your fans tore him apart.
Savant : Yeah oh that was the sad part. My fans killed the guy. They went to his private profile, and [Savant hits his fist in his hand]... I had to delete the post, I had to delete everything about him because I didn't want that to continue, cause it was bad. I did something really bad: I pick the guy out for everyone to pick out, and I was like 'Kill this guy!' I told everyone to kill this guy basically. I told him: 'I hate you, go away.' And everyone was like: 'Hey! Savant hates this guy, let's all hate him!' So I learned that day NEVER hate publically. Always love publically, like it's super important! Like when I see Deadmau5 being all like [angry mimic] 'Mmmh hate that guy' ; 'Mmh that guy sucks' : HE sucks! He fucking hates everything! He's fucking depressed, he's a fucking pessimistic douche bag! Make some fucking good music. You know, just stop fucking bitching!
Z : Oh he's got a lot to prove now.
Savant : Yeah! He's got a fucking lot to prove!
Z : I can't wait to see what he does next, that's for sure.
Savant : Because I grew up with him. Frankly, he does not impress me! His progressive music, it's like... I actually seriously try to like it. I was on a train that lasted 7 hours, and I had two folders of music: one was Deadmau5, one was something else with random stuff. Cause I really wanted to study Deadmau5, like: what is Deadmau5? Why is...? Because I've known him since 2003... 4, yeah when he did like Drum and Bass, Glitch, stuff like Break beats, and he was like totally experimental. Like I am now you know! But he turned into this one thing. Because he did this track 'Secrets', and another track called 'Beautiful rich and horny'. It was like really minimal 'Pum, pum, pudu-pum-pum-pum-pum', really simple minimal, and it had vocals with delay: 'Beautiful rich and horny-horny-horny-horny-horny...'
Z : It needed to happen at the time.
Savant : It needed... and it changed music in history. And Benny Benassi with 'Satisfaction' is a result of what Deadmau5 did, and I think that everything Benny Benassi did reflected everything else after that. I think Deadmau5 has a good fucking influence on people. I would say that if he want to continue to be relevant today, like we agreed on that: if you want to be an artist, you need to spread love to get that fuckin' super-connection with people. Like I want to sit here with you guys and talk. Where would I...? Would I sit here alone?
Z : Eric's done.
Savant : Eric's done, oh shit. It's our... we're going to the hotel. But, if you can get something out of this, it's more philosophy, it's more like uh... yeah we talked a little shit about artists and... but you know, I don't hate them, it's more like a wake-up call, like: 'Fuck you, wake up!'
Nyew(S) : I like this! You speak your mind!
Savant : No it's nothing like 'I hate them!' it's nothing like that. If I met them and worked with them, I would totally do it, I'd be like: 'Yes let's do something together!' And we would probably do something totally different and either of us would do separately. But, I don't know, the way they're thinking is really like this: [Savant walking in a wall and in the fridge] you know it's like you're going into a wall and you're not going past it.
Z : And as I was talking about Deadmau5 the other day, it's like yeah he's saying: 'All the musics sound the same' ; 'It's prepacked' ; 'DJs press play' blablabla... He needs to remember where he comes from. He comes from the underground. That's where shit's happening. Like there's a lot of amazing shit happening, not at the upper walls.
Savant : Yes! Underground is always where the good shit is happening.
Z : Like he plays in fucking Las Vegas and makes a bunch of money doing that and the people who go there are completely and totally loaded. And then he bitches about them being demanding. What?! It doesn't make any sense. Like: you wanna hear innovation? It's happening. It's just happening: not up there.
Savant : It's happening down here with people who care. Like French Revolution! It didn't happen up there. It happened down here, with the wooden shoes, it happened at the bottom. And that's always how revolutions or change will happen, it's always on the bottom. So when you look at the top for change, you're looking in the wrong way, because they're already happy! Being human is all about just having food, sleep and maybe sex! As a male human being, that's all you kinda need.
So when these guys get that, they're happy. They don't have anything else beyond that. They don't want to go to space, they don't want to meet alien races, they don't want to change humanity, they don't want to make money disappear, they don't wanna like... take away presidents and make the world a free place for everyone. They don't care about that shit. They just care about: 'Oh I'm in the safe place right now! So I'm gonna keep it that way!'. They're like: 'I have money, I have a Ferrari, I have fucking girls all over me, sucking my cock left and right! I don't want to give that away for anything!'
When you get to that point, imagine, when you get all that stuff, all you dream about, you don't want to give it away! It's the ego that takes over. You go like: 'This is for me.'
And I get that felling all the time, and when I do I just have to ...[self slap in the face]...
1. French House
Research & Musical innovation
How and why does Savant make music
Commercial music & the Star system
Relationship & Feelings toward the public
6. Final word
A : Will you go to Paris? You know you really got lots of fans there.
It (your music)'s so viral because we love classical and electro music together, it's like ecstasy, it's so beautiful.
S : Yeah so beautiful, and you know that's what I grew up with, when I was 12 years old,
I bought Discovery by Daft Punk, and I was into German trance music at the time.
But, when I heard that French touch, the French house, that opened my eyes. Like SebastiAn, Mr Oizo'
A : Oh yeah SebastiAn we really love him, (we btw booked him once for our College party).
S: He's so underground, he's crazy !!
A : He's like freestyle, like he doesn't care right ?
S : He does not fucking care ! He's like 'Fuck you, fuck you, fuck your style, fuck your genre, fuck your music, I do my style.'
That's amazing, he doesn't care.
J : He's someone you should work with !
S : Yes, he's so cool, like he doesn't give a shit about being a star or anybody like that.
And also he's very different from Justice or Daft Punk you know, because of the attitude, the feeling you know,
P : But it's a little different from you because, I mean, when he's mixing, he's like in trance.
A : In the inside'
P : But you are really'
S : On the outside ! The energy I get from my music, like when I make music at home, I make music for like 10 min 20 min,
and then I go like 'Wooo I wanna dance!', so I go up and I start to dance and move around and shit! cause when you get a good music you want to dance you know. And if you don't get good music you don't wanna dance.
I'm talking about electro, like disco, like house, like 'Move your body and get funky and move!'.
And all the time, when I play shortly my own music, I get that too.
A : And yes I think if it's your own music it's a another feeling ?
S : Yeah it's a totally different thing ! And also when you play like 90 min (referring to the concert) of your OWN stuff,
then you come into trance in your mind, like 'This is my stuff, and everyone is listening to it.'
A : So we were talking about French musicians'
S : The French kinda listened to what was happening in England and in America with the house music,
and Daft Punk really tells with the first album too like 'We learn from these people, we learned from these DJs'.
They have a song called Teachers, where they talk about all the DJs they've kinda listened to and learned from,
and all of them are like from UK and' Oh Phoenix ! And Paris, stuff like that, of course legends you know.
Nobody talks about them anymore, but they really changed the music, the way it is today you know.
Like Skrillex and Deadmau5, who all started to listen to those first people, you know like French fuckin' stuff.
So it' there. And also when I get to France and play music here, it's the energy people want'
I don't know because when you go to the America and play, they want to have fun. But here (in France) they wanna hear music.
Do you know what I mean? Like you have the intelligent need for information. You want it, you need it, you desire it.
The beautiful messed up, the esthetic, the beautiful beat of the distortion. It's a contrast !